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When to Google, When to Forum

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 1:09 AM


One of the coolest things about dA is it's not just for sharing art, it's for sharing ideas about art. If you're stuck on a piece, or you'd like to learn to how to do something that just hasn't been clicking in tutorials or class, the art-related forums are a great place to look!

But the best part about the forums is also the riskiest part: anyone can answer! Which means you'll get opinions which contradict each other, 'industry facts' from people who heard it elsewhere on the internet, people who don't quite understand your original question...it's a mess! :ohnoes:

So how can you back up all that different advice, or alternately open with a question that won't be confusing?

GOOGLE


Ignoring for a moment that I basically worship Google (hey, you try growing up with a 1000-page reference book as your only source of random facts), it's is an awesome, flexible tool.

Just drop your question into Google and see what you find! A lot of experts (or just all-around smarties) have blogs or tutorial sites where they discuss how they do stuff, so if it's a person whose work inspires you, their advice may be even more useful.

Of course, Google can't tell you how you might resolve a plot twist, and Google won't offer you the chance to debate whether trying to duplicate traditional techniques in Photoshop is a good idea, but it's a fantastic starting point, especially if you're  having trouble wording your question! (Remember: forum posts can't be edited or deleted; only locked, if you request it in #help, so if you make a mistake, it's there forever. Well, a week, anyway. Shh.)

In short, Google and the forums are your friends!

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The forums are awesome, but there are times when it's a good idea to supplement with Google.

Thank you `JamminJo and `lintu47 for letting me sneak on board :iconrlyplz:

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:iconvaxl:
Vaxl Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Student General Artist
I can never find what I'm loooking for through google (or any search engine but I like google so I try to use it)
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you're never finding stuff, you may want to try different searches. Use fewer words (or simpler questions) and learn to Boolean query. :)
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:iconvaxl:
Vaxl Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Student General Artist
I do use operations, though :(
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Could you give an example of a search you've tried?
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:iconvaxl:
Vaxl Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Student General Artist
I have some in my scraps, like [link]
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not surprised you didn't get good results for that, 1) an organized stock site is generally a better place to go if you need specific poses, 2) most people aren't gonna tag their images like that. At most you could drop in woman running or woman looking back and work from there, but that is a very, very specific pose.
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Vaxl Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Student General Artist
It's the same way in real life, though. I'm just really bad at finding things. If only I had a tripod for my laptop...
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, right?!

But yeah, try going to sites that focus on stuff. Google Image Search isn't great if you aren't looking for something that doesn't have a name, like a logo or a famous character.
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The library is your friend, too. Because not all pages you find through google are reliable. And sometimes, like people in the forums, different websites contradict each other. Anyway, yes, google is your friend. As for the forums, I rather look what's there than starting a new thread. Why ask the same stupid question for the millionth time? I also go to the forum for the same reason why I often browse deviations: to find like-minded people who have similar preferences and similar problems.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm writing this with the assumption that these days, people have to do a bit of wrangling to get to the library ;p I mean, even parents are like 'just google it dude'.
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to admit that more often than not I am too lazy myself and just google. Always available, much faster ... But I still remember the times when there was no google. We should be grateful that we have the opportunity to search the web and also to communicate with people all over the world. The authors of most of my favorite books had to use other information sources, like libraries and archives.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, seriously!

That said, it's easy to Google wrong.
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It is. Not all web pages are reliable.
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JamminJo Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Awesome Article :love:

And.......

You can participate anytime your heart desires :cuddle:
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you :glomp:
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:iconjamminjo:
JamminJo Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Welcome :iconslipperyhugplz:
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DamonWakes Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Writer
The forums are awesome, but there are times when it's a good idea to supplement with Google.

:p I think this would make more sense if "Google" and "the forums" were swapped. Not that the forums aren't also awesome, but it's often possible to find answers in Google even if you don't expect them to be there. If someone else has virtually the same plot twist problem as you, and they got a good answer, you're set. If not, forums woo!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:giggle: I don't want to discourage people from using the forums, though. I mean, what's the point of having a giant art social network if everyone tells you to gtfo?
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional Writer
Also, STUDY YOUR CRAFT. Visit museums, take a class, read more novels. Immersing yourself in your craft can help you more than Google and the forums combined.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:nod: I know it's not opportunities everyone has, so I'm willing to offer some leeway there, but if you have it don't skip out!
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional Writer
Public libraries ftw!
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
WOO!
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RiseandBe Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Google - The best thing since flavored potato chips. :heart:
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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ShadowMaker-241 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:la:
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Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012
Also: When to forum, when to DO YOUR HOMEWORK YOURSELF! :giggle:
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:lol: Oh man, those threads.
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lintu47 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:clap:
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dhik-a Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Is there any feature to search forums?
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Right at the top of the +forum page! I dunno how specific it is, but it's worth a try.
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:iconvi0letdreamer:
vi0letdreamer Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student Photographer
There's a search box right at the top of the forum page...
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pica-ae Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
:la:
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Writer
i'm tired of the excuses people make for forum-ing for answers instead of Googling. so tired of it. basically, it all boils down to procrastination and laziness AGAIN:

it can take days before you get an answer you're looking for in the forums, mostly because we are real people with real lives and don't live at dA. google can spit it out in moments and the answer you need is likely on the first 1-5 pages. what does that mean? it means you can't loaf around and actually get back to work. and those answers are usually given by people who know what they're talking about and are rarely prefaced with

"I don't know what this is about but here's my opinion anyway."

there's no excuse to not use Google and i have very limited respect for someone who prizes the answers found in the forum first. sure, it's great that they want to keep it in the community! but it's not great that when they do get the info that would be of benefit... and never use it. that makes the forum useless. just Google your shit and keep it moving.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd like to think it's also just unawareness. Growing up using Google just for keywords, we don't always realise questions work just as well. (AskJeeves ftw, what happened to it.)

Hear, hear!
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Writer
with all the things google does, how can someone not know to ask it a question? we've seen those memes, where someone asks google a question starting with "how do i b.." and they get 10 ridiculously funny answers with the fill-in?

like to think it's unawareness all you want. even i can't drum up that kind of optimism without feeling like i'm lying to myself.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It didn't occur to me to actually Google questions I had until we started talking about it (I Googled terms or used links people posted on sites like Authonomy). So I can picture it.
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MidNightMagnificent Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*faces palms in defeat*
Also, how the HELL did I post a reply 3 times?! Crappy connection, damn!
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I only saw it once!
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:iconmidnightmagnificent:
MidNightMagnificent Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh my gosh. YESSS. I've lost count of how many Many MANY forums I've seen where the OP asks a simple silly question, and the majority of replies wound up being "Google. Use it bitch." plz accounts. How delightful that we can change to "Journal. Read this bitch." answers now.

Note: I am joking, but really. Thank you so much for this journal.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:love:

Hopefully this will also help people figure out ways not to get jumped on by all the forum regs being all NOT AGAIN!
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Cassildra Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional Writer
:thumbsup: yes.
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Woo!
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